Comments on: Time And Psychoacoustics https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/ Art and technique of sound design Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:06:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.9 By: Time: The Key To Psychoacoustics? https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-342264 Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:29:43 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-342264 […] Like most other audio designers out there, I started twiddling the knobs and sliders well before I had an understanding of the underlying DSP. It was eye-opening experience to realise that almost every single DSP effect is related to time. So let’s start looking at a few common DSP tools used in everyday sound design and analyse how time and the precedence effect plays a role, starting from hundreds of milliseconds all the way down to a single sample. Via designingsound.org […]

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By: Gary Hall https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-340759 Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:58:02 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-340759 In reply to kinsast.

The only thing wrong with the term psychoacoustics is that it elides the difference between physiology and the ‘mind’. But it’s certainly the case the sound we perceive is not identical with the totality of acoustic phenomenon going on at any moment. The limited frequency range of human hearing (compared to creatures such as bats, dolphins, dogs, and elephants) assures that in itself. The phenomenon of ‘masking’, discovered in psychoacoustic research, really works, has no basis outside the human mind-body, and has proven to be worth billions in audio compression patents.

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By: kinsast https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-340134 Thu, 25 Dec 2014 18:30:45 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-340134 I guess what I was trying to say is that one can not separate between the thing itself (acoustic) and its perception (now called psychoacoustic). How does that go? So, is ‘Music’ now ‘psycho’ or are you going to separate it into two parts, one just being ‘acoustic’ and the other ‘psycho-acoustic’? Are ‘meaningless’ noises (frequencies that cover or don’t cover human’s hearable range and one happens upon, like wind, waves, clinks and clanks, cars running by etc) acoustic or psycho acoustic phenomena?

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By: Josefin Lindebrink https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-339936 Thu, 25 Dec 2014 12:24:31 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-339936 In reply to Shaun Farley.

Working with acoustics and teaching psychoacoustics I’d say I’m happy that psychoacoustics appears more often in discussions. The field of psychoacoustics deals with how we interpret, perceive, and react to sound and sonic environments and as is stated above it is definitely a legitimate field of study. While the field of acoustics is the overarching field of studying sound and vibration, it focuses on the study of the physics behind sound and sound transmission starting from a vibrating object (for example vibration of vocal chords that produce speech) that is transmitted through a medium (usually air) and interacts with other objects (spatial boundaries such as room walls floor, furniture, or human beings etc) from that we specify sound with factors such as frequency, time duration and sound level. We also characterize sound transmission in space through factors such as reverberation time etc. As reverberation is mentioned – reverberation time is a way of determining how long sound lasts in a room (defined as the time it takes for sound to decrease 60 dB in level from a steady state) while reverberance is connected to how we perceive the resulting sound field.

The field of psychoacoustics focuses on making connections between the sounds physical qualities or characteristics with how we perceive them. One classic example of a psychoacoustic study is to study how changes in perception (given a hypothesis or a narrowed focus of study) changes with a given change in sound characteristics such as pitch shift (frequency variation) or change in sound level.

Psychacoustics definitely deals with meaning making and emotional effects, in fact this is a specific field of study within psychoacoustics called emoacoustics (yes, it is true). Example here:
http://omicsgroup.org/journals/emotional-responses-to-information-and-warning-sounds-2165-7556.1000106.php?aid=7643

Worth mentioning is that psychoacoustics is ONE way of studying sound perception where common methodologies are listening tests with questionnaires. There are other fields as way that employs other methodologies.

Finally – great work Varun!

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By: Shaun Farley https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-339184 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 14:46:19 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-339184 In reply to kinsast.

While some of the factors described in this article relate exclusively to acoustics, not all of them do. The precedence effect that Varun opens the article with occurs exclusively within our perception. Psychoacoustics may seem like something you hear too frequently around the web and in forums lately, because people use the term in incorrect ways. It is the study of how our brain interprets sounds on a mechanical/fundamental level. Most people tend to think of it as how we interpret sound in terms of meaning or emotion. So, you’re argument that it does not exist is correct in that latter interpretation, but it is very much a legitimate field of study. It’s all down to the correct usage of the term.

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By: kinsast https://designingsound.org/2014/12/23/time-and-psychoacoustics/#comment-338605 Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:25:31 +0000 https://designingsound.org/?p=28833#comment-338605 The word ‘psychoacoustic’ is used lots lately but I do think we all could live without it. All those phenomenons described in this (and other articles) are ‘acoustic’ – what’s ‘psycho’ about that. I would go so far and say that ‘psychoacoustic’ is something that does not exist. Every acoustic phenomenon is ‘psycho acoustic’.
Of course, great article, and very educational!

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